RRRSole on 80 Metres

[Brucks]

There is an RRsolic misfit who delights on disrupting various nets on 80
metres of an evening, usually after 8.30 pm Melbourne time.
Nets such as the Ex G, Air Force, Truckies, WICEN are being attacked
regularly.
The misfit uses high power, and has a faulty power supply because you can
hear the consistant hum on it.
This could help identify him.
He is quite disruptive and uses the "F" word regularly, and is quite cynical
in his criticism.
He has been operative for at least 12 months, and efforts to track him have
so far failed.
He refer to 80 metres as "his band" and the current "Channel 35".
He dislikes CBers (27 MHz), although his comments suggest he knows more
about CB than we give him credit for.

The profile gathered so far is :-
He is a loner, with not many friends.
Is possibly handicapped in some way.
Is an alcoholic, or near so.
Definitely has an amateur licence, or has had one.
Is probably aged in his late 50s - 60s.
Lives in humble accommodation, possibly even a permanent caravan in a
caravan park.
Resides in the western / north western suburbs of Melbourne, or close in
rural / country areas west / northwest.
Has a total dislike to 4WDs.
Derides anyone in authority.
Has a distinctive "juvenile pitch" in his laugh.

Complaints to ACMA has proven their disinterest.
The WIA cannot help either as they are not "Spectrum Police", but are
sympathetic and want to get him also.

So it is over to us, the amateurs to locate and identify him, so that the
appropriate legal action can be taken.
He has got to be stopped.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Please email me ..... ***@yahoo.com

I am a licenced amateur but for obvious reasons prefer to not disclose my
identity at this stage.

Please HELP us get rid of this moron !!

[VK4TI]

Post by Brucks
There is an RRsolic misfit who delights on disrupting various nets on 80
metres of an evening, usually after 8.30 pm Melbourne time.
Nets such as the Ex G, Air Force, Truckies, WICEN are being attacked
regularly.
The misfit uses high power, and has a faulty power supply because you can
hear the consistant hum on it.
This could help identify him.
He is quite disruptive and uses the "F" word regularly, and is quite cynical
in his criticism.
He has been operative for at least 12 months, and efforts to track him have
so far failed.
He refer to 80 metres as "his band" and the current "Channel 35".
He dislikes CBers (27 MHz), although his comments suggest he knows more
about CB than we give him credit for.
The profile gathered so far is :-
He is a loner, with not many friends.
Is possibly handicapped in some way.
Is an alcoholic, or near so.
Definitely has an amateur licence, or has had one.
Is probably aged in his late 50s - 60s.
Lives in humble accommodation, possibly even a permanent caravan in a
caravan park.
Resides in the western / north western suburbs of Melbourne, or close in
rural / country areas west / northwest.
Has a total dislike to 4WDs.
Derides anyone in authority.
Has a distinctive "juvenile pitch" in his laugh.
Complaints to ACMA has proven their disinterest.
The WIA cannot help either as they are not "Spectrum Police", but are
sympathetic and want to get him also.
So it is over to us, the amateurs to locate and identify him, so that the
appropriate legal action can be taken.
He has got to be stopped.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
I am a licenced amateur but for obvious reasons prefer to not disclose my
identity at this stage.
Please HELP us get rid of this moron !!

Its a sad reflection on the amateur community that decent fox hunters
couldn't find this guy ! Ask your local clubs for those with DF
experience, shouldn't take to long.

A CB whip mounted on the rear of the vehicle has strong directional
characteristics out the front of the vehicle on 80 M just tune in and
follow the signal. Use the attentuator in the mobile as you get close to
the source.

[carol]

http://www.k1ttt.net/technote/doppler.html
This homepage explains how to make a simple tracking device. Although it was
designed for much higher frequencies, there may be a chance it will work in
car with a couple of 4ft whips on oposite guards of the car. Although
antennas may be out of tune it should still work.
I used this on a much higher frequency and found it was accurate to a couple
of metres. There is only one problem with it. You have to know the general
direction of signal. Eg: north or south. As this setup gives a null effect
when pointing direct but also null from direct behind.
I was listening to Danny in Queensland last night on 3.6 megs and could not
believe what i was hearing with this sick man upsetting them. Dan is very
good operator and just ignored it and eventually it went away. Like most of
the nets on 80, there standard is very good. Thank you gentlemen for making
shortwave listening good fun.

[ThePointman]

Post by carol
http://www.k1ttt.net/technote/doppler.html
This homepage explains how to make a simple tracking device. Although it was
designed for much higher frequencies, there may be a chance it will work in
car with a couple of 4ft whips on oposite guards of the car. Although
antennas may be out of tune it should still work.
I used this on a much higher frequency and found it was accurate to a couple
of metres. There is only one problem with it. You have to know the general
direction of signal. Eg: north or south. As this setup gives a null effect
when pointing direct but also null from direct behind.
I was listening to Danny in Queensland last night on 3.6 megs and could not
believe what i was hearing with this sick man upsetting them. Dan is very
good operator and just ignored it and eventually it went away. Like most of
the nets on 80, there standard is very good. Thank you gentlemen for making
shortwave listening good fun.

We are hamstrung when dealing with issues like this. The ACMA has
effectively washed their hands of him as they always come back with the
"self policing" line.
Is it time for the WIA to stand up and do something???? What, I don't know.
Surely he is breaching his licence in many ways. The WIA appears to be a
toothless tiger. When are they going to stand up on issues like this?

As others have proposed, maybe a visit from unamused amateurs. Then then we
would end up in the shit.
Funny things happen in the middle of the night when in possession of a pair
of pliers and in near proximity to coaxial cable.

Pointy.

[Jeßus]

VK4TI wrote:

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Post by VK4TI
Its a sad reflection on the amateur community that decent fox hunters
couldn't find this guy !

Assuming the guy is local - totally agree!

[George W. Frost]

Post by Brucks
There is an RRsolic misfit who delights on disrupting various nets on 80
metres of an evening, usually after 8.30 pm Melbourne time.
Nets such as the Ex G, Air Force, Truckies, WICEN are being attacked
regularly.
The misfit uses high power, and has a faulty power supply because you can
hear the consistant hum on it.
This could help identify him.
He is quite disruptive and uses the "F" word regularly, and is quite
cynical in his criticism.
He has been operative for at least 12 months, and efforts to track him
have so far failed.

Try 25 years or more.

Post by Brucks
He refer to 80 metres as "his band" and the current "Channel 35".

Has done that for 25 years.

Post by Brucks
He dislikes CBers (27 MHz), although his comments suggest he knows more
about CB than we give him credit for.

He started out in CB, although his father is or was a licenced amateur
not sure if he is still alive.

Post by Brucks
The profile gathered so far is :-
He is a loner, with not many friends.

Yes.

Post by Brucks
Is possibly handicapped in some way.

Only in the brain department

Post by Brucks
Is an alcoholic, or near so.

Not so sure about that.

Post by Brucks
Definitely has an amateur licence, or has had one.

As far as I am aware, he still holds an amateur licence, which he achieved
through the generousity of the RI examiner

Post by Brucks
Is probably aged in his late 50s - 60s.

Somewhere around that, but by his behaviour, you would think he is still in
school.

Post by Brucks
Lives in humble accommodation, possibly even a permanent caravan in a
caravan park.

No, he lives with his father in a modest brick-veneer house, though not sure
if his father is still alive and active.

Post by Brucks
Resides in the western / north western suburbs of Melbourne, or close in
rural / country areas west / northwest.

Try Central Victoria Goldfields.

Post by Brucks
Has a total dislike to 4WDs.

Dislikes any vehicle apart from veteran cars.

Post by Brucks
Derides anyone in authority.

Always has and always will.

Post by Brucks
Has a distinctive "juvenile pitch" in his laugh.

because he hasn't grown up yet.

Post by Brucks
Complaints to ACMA has proven their disinterest.

Complaints have been lodged for almost 30 years against him, since he was
first into CB.
The local CB club had put in a complaint with the Department of
Communications as it was then and almost had him totally banned and thrown
into jail for his antics, but for the sympathy of one member who said the he
might reform and be a good boy, so the complaint was dropped.

Post by Brucks
The WIA cannot help either as they are not "Spectrum Police", but are
sympathetic and want to get him also.

That has been their attitude for 27 years.

Post by Brucks
So it is over to us, the amateurs to locate and identify him, so that the
appropriate legal action can be taken.

We all know who he is, but he relies on the legal system to get him out of
trouble.

Post by Brucks
He has got to be stopped.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Post by Brucks
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
I am a licenced amateur but for obvious reasons prefer to not disclose my
identity at this stage.
Please HELP us get rid of this moron !!

Only way you will get rid of him is down a mine shaft

One more thing,
Do you remember the English comic book which depicted a ficticious person
called Spofforth or a similar name?

He was a public school student, always wore a school cap, had glasses and
had a nose which was accentuated,lonbg and pointed,
This is the man you are looking for, apart from the cap.

[Brucks]

Post by George W. Frost

Post by Brucks
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
I am a licenced amateur but for obvious reasons prefer to not disclose my
identity at this stage.
Please HELP us get rid of this moron !!

Only way you will get rid of him is down a mine shaft
One more thing,
Do you remember the English comic book which depicted a ficticious person
called Spofforth or a similar name?
He was a public school student, always wore a school cap, had glasses and
had a nose which was accentuated,lonbg and pointed,
This is the man you are looking for, apart from the cap.

Hi George
It's not Mad Mxx if that is to whom you are referring.
A nameless group actually parked 100 metres from his home one evening a few
months ago, the misfit came on, but it was not coming from Bendigo, at least
not in the immediate area we were checking on.
His signal was very weak to us and we could hear the Melbourne guys much
stronger.
Later Mad Mxx DID come on with a legit call, and nearly blew us out of the
cars.
We convinced ourselves he was not the culprit a visit was not made.
He was going to be asked if he could give some weary travellers a cuppa
coffee.

Could you email me with further details in strict confidence, and I will
also reveal my name and callsign to you also.

***@yahoo.com

Thanks

Brucks

[George W. Frost]

Post by Brucks

Post by George W. Frost

Post by Brucks
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
I am a licenced amateur but for obvious reasons prefer to not disclose
my identity at this stage.
Please HELP us get rid of this moron !!

Only way you will get rid of him is down a mine shaft
One more thing,
Do you remember the English comic book which depicted a ficticious person
called Spofforth or a similar name?
He was a public school student, always wore a school cap, had glasses and
had a nose which was accentuated,lonbg and pointed,
This is the man you are looking for, apart from the cap.

Hi George
It's not Mad Mxx if that is to whom you are referring.
A nameless group actually parked 100 metres from his home one evening a
few months ago, the misfit came on, but it was not coming from Bendigo, at
least not in the immediate area we were checking on.
His signal was very weak to us and we could hear the Melbourne guys much
stronger.
Later Mad Mxx DID come on with a legit call, and nearly blew us out of the
cars.
We convinced ourselves he was not the culprit a visit was not made.
He was going to be asked if he could give some weary travellers a cuppa
coffee.
Could you email me with further details in strict confidence, and I will
also reveal my name and callsign to you also.
Thanks
Brucks

The only problem with visiting him, is that he seems to carry a personal
voice recorder with him at all times, to record any conversations he has
with others, then he uses this to lodge a complaint with the local police
station.

[maxpowervk]

Hello George, it is not Mal that is being discussed here. The person
that is being referred to abused Mal as well. Mal was trying to upset
a net on 80 metres the other night when this other bloke came on and
started swearing and getting stuck into Mal. He went on about HMAS
Sydney and how they all deserved what they got and how stupid the
captain must have been. Mal can be a pain in the arse but I have never
heard him swear or be very abusive. This other bloke is a shocker.
When the WICEN net came on he called them fxxxen WICEN wankers and
much other abusive names. As someone else pointed out, he has a
pronouced hum on his signal.

[G-S]

Post by maxpowervk
Hello George, it is not Mal that is being discussed here. The person
that is being referred to abused Mal as well.

Well at least some good came of this LOL


G-S
VK3DMN

[George W. Frost]

Post by maxpowervk
Hello George, it is not Mal that is being discussed here. The person
that is being referred to abused Mal as well. Mal was trying to upset
a net on 80 metres the other night when this other bloke came on and
started swearing and getting stuck into Mal. He went on about HMAS
Sydney and how they all deserved what they got and how stupid the
captain must have been. Mal can be a pain in the arse but I have never
heard him swear or be very abusive.

You have obviously only heard Mad Mal on a good day
He is very prone to swearing and not holding back with anything

The only time you didn't hear him swear is when he knew his father was
listening

Post by maxpowervk
This other bloke is a shocker.
When the WICEN net came on he called them fxxxen WICEN wankers and
much other abusive names. As someone else pointed out, he has a
pronouced hum on his signal.

[Walt Davidson]

Post by Brucks
I am a licenced amateur but for obvious reasons prefer to not disclose my
identity at this stage.

So you are an anonymous poison-pen writer.

73 de G3NYY

[jonz]

Post by Walt Davidson

Post by Brucks
I am a licenced amateur but for obvious reasons prefer to not disclose my
identity at this stage.

So you are an anonymous poison-pen writer.

shut up wlat....

Post by Walt Davidson
73 de G3NYY

[j***@yahoo.com]

Post by Brucks
There is an RRsolic misfit who delights on disrupting various nets on 80
metres of an evening, usually after 8.30 pm Melbourne time.
Nets such as the Ex G, Air Force, Truckies, WICEN are being attacked
regularly.
The misfit uses high power, and has a faulty power supply because you can
hear the consistant hum on it.
This could help identify him.
He is quite disruptive and uses the "F" word regularly, and is quite cynical
in his criticism.
He has been operative for at least 12 months, and efforts to track him have
so far failed.
He refer to 80 metres as "his band" and the current "Channel 35".
He dislikes CBers (27 MHz), although his comments suggest he knows more
about CB than we give him credit for.
The profile gathered so far is :-
He is a loner, with not many friends.
Is possibly handicapped in some way.
Is an alcoholic, or near so.
Definitely has an amateur licence, or has had one.
Is probably aged  in his late 50s - 60s.
Lives in humble accommodation, possibly even a permanent caravan in a
caravan park.
Resides in the western / north western suburbs of Melbourne, or close in
rural / country areas west / northwest.
Has a total dislike to 4WDs.
Derides anyone in authority.
Has a distinctive "juvenile pitch" in his laugh.
Complaints to ACMA has proven their disinterest.
The WIA cannot help either as they are not "Spectrum Police", but are
sympathetic and want to get him also.
So it is over to us, the amateurs to locate and identify him, so that the
appropriate legal action can be taken.
He has got to be stopped.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
I am a licenced amateur but for obvious reasons prefer to not disclose my
identity at this stage.
Please HELP us get rid of this moron !!

Have you guys heard for ARDF?
http://www.ardf.org.au/

73

[Brucks]

Post by Brucks
Please HELP us get rid of this moron !!

Thanks to those with positive responses and comments.
Yes we have tried most of the suggestions, but we need a starting point and
ARDF does not help here.
We are tracking skywave sigs, and the best suggestion is for the whip on the
rear of a vehicle.
That was attempted, and was how we actually determined his general location.
Then he went quiet for several weeks.
We have DF loops ready to go, but we need help from both angles, regretfully
we dont have enough resources at this stage to cover the whole state.
He could even be coming from outside VK3 .... hard to tell when everyone
says he is "20 over".
If we could get a report where he is "40 or 50 over" or "pinning the needle"
then we might have a starting point.

The WIA is not toothless, it can only report to the ACMA, but like ourselves
WIA needs the info for ACMA to act.
As some else has said, it is not life threatening, so why would ACMA give up
resources just for "amateurs".
We are just a 'cash cow' for government, and stuff the rest. We are only
good enough when a crisis hits such as bush fires etc.
So it is up to us, the active amateurs to locate this misfit, and report.to
the authorities ... nothing more.
We dont want violence, as that only stuffs up our case.

Let's find him first, THEN when he is positively identified let the legal
processes take over.
Can all those affected set up a listening watch, and report relative signal
strengths to me by email.
We need that "50 Over / pinning the needle report"
"Slowly slowly catchee monkey... "

That is all we can ask.

Brucks
VK3
***@yahoo.com

[PJ]

Its sad that Amateur Radio has come to this,irrespective of level of
licence... PJ

Post by Brucks
There is an RRsolic misfit who delights on disrupting various nets on 80
metres of an evening, usually after 8.30 pm Melbourne time.
Nets such as the Ex G, Air Force, Truckies, WICEN are being attacked
regularly.
The misfit uses high power, and has a faulty power supply because you can
hear the consistant hum on it.
This could help identify him.
He is quite disruptive and uses the "F" word regularly, and is quite
cynical in his criticism.
He has been operative for at least 12 months, and efforts to track him
have so far failed.
He refer to 80 metres as "his band" and the current "Channel 35".
He dislikes CBers (27 MHz), although his comments suggest he knows more
about CB than we give him credit for.
The profile gathered so far is :-
He is a loner, with not many friends.
Is possibly handicapped in some way.
Is an alcoholic, or near so.
Definitely has an amateur licence, or has had one.
Is probably aged in his late 50s - 60s.
Lives in humble accommodation, possibly even a permanent caravan in a
caravan park.
Resides in the western / north western suburbs of Melbourne, or close in
rural / country areas west / northwest.
Has a total dislike to 4WDs.
Derides anyone in authority.
Has a distinctive "juvenile pitch" in his laugh.
Complaints to ACMA has proven their disinterest.
The WIA cannot help either as they are not "Spectrum Police", but are
sympathetic and want to get him also.
So it is over to us, the amateurs to locate and identify him, so that the
appropriate legal action can be taken.
He has got to be stopped.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
I am a licenced amateur but for obvious reasons prefer to not disclose my
identity at this stage.
Please HELP us get rid of this moron !!

[George W. Frost]

Post by PJ
Its sad that Amateur Radio has come to this,irrespective of level of
licence... PJ

How is Chelsea Heights now-a-days??

[Smoky]

So what happened, if anything?

Post by PJ
Its sad that Amateur Radio has come to this,irrespective of level of
licence... PJ

Post by Brucks
There is an RRsolic misfit who delights on disrupting various nets on 80
metres of an evening, usually after 8.30 pm Melbourne time.
Nets such as the Ex G, Air Force, Truckies, WICEN are being attacked
regularly.
The misfit uses high power, and has a faulty power supply because you can
hear the consistant hum on it.
This could help identify him.
He is quite disruptive and uses the "F" word regularly, and is quite
cynical in his criticism.
He has been operative for at least 12 months, and efforts to track him
have so far failed.
He refer to 80 metres as "his band" and the current "Channel 35".
He dislikes CBers (27 MHz), although his comments suggest he knows more
about CB than we give him credit for.
The profile gathered so far is :-
He is a loner, with not many friends.
Is possibly handicapped in some way.
Is an alcoholic, or near so.
Definitely has an amateur licence, or has had one.
Is probably aged in his late 50s - 60s.
Lives in humble accommodation, possibly even a permanent caravan in a
caravan park.
Resides in the western / north western suburbs of Melbourne, or close in
rural / country areas west / northwest.
Has a total dislike to 4WDs.
Derides anyone in authority.
Has a distinctive "juvenile pitch" in his laugh.
Complaints to ACMA has proven their disinterest.
The WIA cannot help either as they are not "Spectrum Police", but are
sympathetic and want to get him also.
So it is over to us, the amateurs to locate and identify him, so that the
appropriate legal action can be taken.
He has got to be stopped.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
I am a licenced amateur but for obvious reasons prefer to not disclose my
identity at this stage.
Please HELP us get rid of this moron !!

[Brucks]

Post by Smoky
So what happened, if anything?

So ...wot do you expect .... instant ID and litigation ?
Where is your DF loop and offer of assistance ??
Dont just sit back there and expect the world to be handed to you on a
silver platter !

There are also some others out there with DF loops, more informationm has
been obtained, but more is required to nail him.
HF DFing is not as simple as some amateurs think.
We have to find the ground wave signal, as the skywave has too many
variables and wrong info.
It has been suggested we call in the ARDF guys, yep that's fine mostly they
work with known areas, ground wave and vertical polarisation, consistant
signals and proper sniffers. The perfect setup ... here we have the real
thing, and unknown DFing on 80m requires more time and patience.

With a little more effort, and feedback from other amateurs we will ID him.
That is all that is asked, nothing more so that a proper report can be made
to the ACMA.

An audio file of him has been uploaded at
www.amateurradio.org.au/qrm/80qrm.wma
It is a 2MB fule so download will take several moments.
Better to copy and paste the link to your browser.
It worls ok with Firefox and IE.
If pub language offends you, dont download the file.
If you think you can ID him or have any other comments, please let me know.

***@yahoo.com

69+4
Brucks

[Smoky]

Is he likely to be in NSW? I have a very insensitive RX and a poor aerial
but would help if any use.

By the way, I doubt whether IDing him would do any good. We had (or maybe
still have, but inactive) a very destructive amateur in Sydney on one of the
repeaters. He caused continuous disruption and was quite open about it. Must
have turned literally thousands of new amateurs off the hobby. Nothing was
ever done by any authorities.

Post by Brucks

Post by Smoky
So what happened, if anything?

So ...wot do you expect .... instant ID and litigation ?
Where is your DF loop and offer of assistance ??
Dont just sit back there and expect the world to be handed to you on a
silver platter !
There are also some others out there with DF loops, more informationm has
been obtained, but more is required to nail him.
HF DFing is not as simple as some amateurs think.
We have to find the ground wave signal, as the skywave has too many
variables and wrong info.
It has been suggested we call in the ARDF guys, yep that's fine mostly
they work with known areas, ground wave and vertical polarisation,
consistant signals and proper sniffers. The perfect setup ... here we have
the real thing, and unknown DFing on 80m requires more time and patience.
With a little more effort, and feedback from other amateurs we will ID him.
That is all that is asked, nothing more so that a proper report can be
made to the ACMA.
An audio file of him has been uploaded at
www.amateurradio.org.au/qrm/80qrm.wma
It is a 2MB fule so download will take several moments.
Better to copy and paste the link to your browser.
It worls ok with Firefox and IE.
If pub language offends you, dont download the file.
If you think you can ID him or have any other comments, please let me know.
69+4
Brucks

[Kate]

Post by Smoky
Is he likely to be in NSW? I have a very insensitive RX and a poor
aerial but would help if any use.
By the way, I doubt whether IDing him would do any good. We had (or
maybe still have, but inactive) a very destructive amateur in Sydney
on one of the repeaters. He caused continuous disruption and was
quite open about it. Must have turned literally thousands of new
amateurs off the hobby. Nothing was ever done by any authorities.

Umm, not true. If you mean the dreaded Bob from Blaxland, he did get
nicked and spent six months inside. But then he got a nice shiny new
licence and was back on air, albeit a lot less provocative.

And he may have put a lot off, but not me. Got my ticket in 1983.

Kate vk4xyl
--
"How many of them can we make die?"
 --- March of Cambreadth

http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html

[Res]

Post by Smoky
Is he likely to be in NSW? I have a very insensitive RX and a poor aerial
but would help if any use.
By the way, I doubt whether IDing him would do any good. We had (or maybe
still have, but inactive) a very destructive amateur in Sydney on one of the
repeaters. He caused continuous disruption and was quite open about it. Must
have turned literally thousands of new amateurs off the hobby. Nothing was
ever done by any authorities.

if he pisses off enough people, chances are the authorities may be the
least of his problems, especially if one of those "people" are also of a
highly volatile nature.