Discussion:
New NSW Scanning Forum
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NSWESSCAN
2008-08-15 12:33:29 UTC
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To fill the void left by the closure of a popular New South Wales
scanning forum, we have decided to open a new discussion forum to
facilitate communication between NSW scanning enthusiasts.

The forum is located on the homepage of the New South Wales Emergency
Service Scanning website:

www.scanningnsw.net84.net

Please also note that we have changed our URL. NSW Emergency Service
Scanning and it’s new discussion forum can be found at the above
address.

If you still access our previous ‘optusnet’ site you should be
redirected to our new home – but please update any bookmarks or links.

Thanks,
Mark
NSW Emergency Service Scanning
http://www.scanningnsw.net84.net
(Previously: http://members.optusnet.com.au/nswesscan)
Michael Keeping
2008-08-15 23:42:14 UTC
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Post by NSWESSCAN
To fill the void left by the closure of a popular New South Wales
scanning forum, we have decided to open a new discussion forum to
facilitate communication between NSW scanning enthusiasts
I doubt it's a forum people want, try quality information. There is a
lack of this information on the internet these days, people get their
jollies by being a forum moderator than actually providing people with
information on scanning. Now that one website (with good information)
has closed people are opening forums in plagues, one is enough!
Peter Smyth
2008-08-16 01:53:09 UTC
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Post by Michael Keeping
Post by NSWESSCAN
To fill the void left by the closure of a popular New South Wales
scanning forum, we have decided to open a new discussion forum to
facilitate communication between NSW scanning enthusiasts
I doubt it's a forum people want,
What I saw in the old ScanNSW site, it seem to have a lot of people chatting
about all sorts of stuff.
Why wouldn't people be intrested in a new forum?
Post by Michael Keeping
try quality information. There is a lack of this information on the
internet these days, people get their
jollies by being a forum moderator than actually providing people with
information on scanning. Now that one website (with good information)
has closed people are opening forums in plagues, one is enough!
At a quick look at http://www.scanningnsw.net84.net/ it appears to have good
information.
I found one error but that is because it has not been updated since May, and
since the NSWP have had a couple boundary changes in the Newcastle area.
There maybe others errors, but I have seen far worse sites, especially from
other states about NSW stuff.
Post by Michael Keeping
Now that one website (with good information) has closed people are opening
forums in plagues, one is enough!
?But you just said that "one" has closed ... which means there is now zero.

On a quick search, I have found one mentioned...I can't really call one a
"plague".

So are you saying that Dave's ScanNSW was the only ONE and there can never
be replaced, despite Daves interferance and negativism to some postings.

I gather you are in Victoria?! Maybe you should just stay there
Michael Keeping
2008-08-16 03:10:28 UTC
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Peter, you've miss interpreted what I had previously posted..

The site Dave maintained had more than a dozen pages on it, there was
life outside of the forums and the site itself was being linked to by
many well known other radio comms sites over the world. This new
fellow has setup a forum with a few emergency services pages on it,
while that's a good start what about the rest of the scanner scene in
NSW? What about focusing more on the accuracy and importance of
information?

Since ScanNSW has gone, I can link you to four sites that are going to
fill the apparent void but are all forum based. Mark's site is on of
these, and with Andrew's one that is upcoming that will make it five.
The difference with Mr. Kenna's plan is that it will be in some form
of an association with Sydney Scan, which is a static site with
relevant information to scanning in and around Sydney.

User contributions and the lack of from you and the rest of scanner
hobbyists make a central point for up-to date and accurate information
hard to find. In the Australia scanner scene, all we require is one
site for each state or a national one.

Whether I am in New Zealand or China, if I want to go visit NSW I am
going to want a quick nice and accurate informational page to take
along with me that contains frequencies and other important
information so I know who/what I am listening to and what they refer
to.

Lunch time, cheers.

Michael Keeping
NSWESSCAN
2008-08-16 05:03:58 UTC
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Post by Michael Keeping
The site Dave maintained had more than a dozen pages on it, there was
life outside of the forums and the site itself was being linked to by
many well known other radio comms sites over the world.
Dave’s site had only one page – the GRN page. The rest of the site was
always under construction.

In its last months a VHF police page appeared which was a straight
copy of NSWES Scan’s VHF police information. This was then replaced
with a straight copy from the RadioReference site. A RFS page also
appeared for a short while in the last few months and admittedly did
look promising.

I don’t know when you last vested Dave’s site, but there was
definitely no “life outside the forums” as you put it. It was a site
that for the last 2-3 years has always been under construction.
Post by Michael Keeping
This new
fellow has setup a forum with a few emergency services pages on it,
while that's a good start what about the rest of the scanner scene in
NSW? What about focusing more on the accuracy and importance of
information?
NSWES Scan is no ‘new fellow’ – we are very small group of scanning
enthusiasts who have been sharing scanning information online since
2003 and have had our information available to everybody outside out
group since 2006. We simply have a new host and new URL, howeevr our
old URL will continue to work.

The emergency service information that we provide, and it’s accuracy,
really cannot be found elsewhere, and I would invite you to try.
Post by Michael Keeping
Since ScanNSW has gone, I can link you to four sites that are going to
fill the apparent void but are all forum based. Mark's site is on of
these, and with Andrew's one that is upcoming that will make it five.
The difference with Mr. Kenna's plan is that it will be in some form
of an association with Sydney Scan, which is a static site with
relevant information to scanning in and around Sydney.
NSWES Scan aside, can you please provide links to other NSW scanning
websites which have current and up-to-date information on emergency
services? Andrew’s ‘SydneyScan’ site is outdated by many years, and I
cannot find one – let along four – other sites with accurate
information (which has not been copied from NSWES Scan).
Post by Michael Keeping
Whether I am in New Zealand or China, if I want to go visit NSW I am
going to want a quick nice and accurate informational page to take
along with me that contains frequencies and other important
information so I know who/what I am listening to and what they refer
to.
The NSWES Scan cannot be overlooked for this information, and again, I
invite you to try and find a NSW scanner site with more up-to-date
information on NSW emergency services.

Cheers,
Mark
NSW Emergency Service Scanning
http://www.scanningnsw.net84.net
(Previously: http://members.optusnet.com.au/nswesscan)
Andrew Kenna
2008-08-16 06:17:38 UTC
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Some stuff on my website is out of date yep, I agree with you but then there
is other information on my sydney scan website that is still very current

I've often asked people who tell me website is out of date to help supply
updated information, and after I ask them that I never hear from them again
which tells me that people just want everyone else to do the work for them.

Whilst your blowing your own trumpet, there are some other scanning sites
you have forgotten to mention and haven't made comment on just to be fair.

1) lakescan ( run by Garry formally associated with newcastlescan)
2) newcastlescan ( run by Mike )
3) Sydney Trunking ( run by Mike Alpha)

Andrew
Post by Michael Keeping
The site Dave maintained had more than a dozen pages on it, there was
life outside of the forums and the site itself was being linked to by
many well known other radio comms sites over the world.
Dave’s site had only one page – the GRN page. The rest of the site was
always under construction.

In its last months a VHF police page appeared which was a straight
copy of NSWES Scan’s VHF police information. This was then replaced
with a straight copy from the RadioReference site. A RFS page also
appeared for a short while in the last few months and admittedly did
look promising.

I don’t know when you last vested Dave’s site, but there was
definitely no “life outside the forums” as you put it. It was a site
that for the last 2-3 years has always been under construction.
Post by Michael Keeping
This new
fellow has setup a forum with a few emergency services pages on it,
while that's a good start what about the rest of the scanner scene in
NSW? What about focusing more on the accuracy and importance of
information?
NSWES Scan is no ‘new fellow’ – we are very small group of scanning
enthusiasts who have been sharing scanning information online since
2003 and have had our information available to everybody outside out
group since 2006. We simply have a new host and new URL, howeevr our
old URL will continue to work.

The emergency service information that we provide, and it’s accuracy,
really cannot be found elsewhere, and I would invite you to try.
Post by Michael Keeping
Since ScanNSW has gone, I can link you to four sites that are going to
fill the apparent void but are all forum based. Mark's site is on of
these, and with Andrew's one that is upcoming that will make it five.
The difference with Mr. Kenna's plan is that it will be in some form
of an association with Sydney Scan, which is a static site with
relevant information to scanning in and around Sydney.
NSWES Scan aside, can you please provide links to other NSW scanning
websites which have current and up-to-date information on emergency
services? Andrew’s ‘SydneyScan’ site is outdated by many years, and I
cannot find one – let along four – other sites with accurate
information (which has not been copied from NSWES Scan).
Post by Michael Keeping
Whether I am in New Zealand or China, if I want to go visit NSW I am
going to want a quick nice and accurate informational page to take
along with me that contains frequencies and other important
information so I know who/what I am listening to and what they refer
to.
The NSWES Scan cannot be overlooked for this information, and again, I
invite you to try and find a NSW scanner site with more up-to-date
information on NSW emergency services.

Cheers,
Mark
NSW Emergency Service Scanning
http://www.scanningnsw.net84.net
(Previously: http://members.optusnet.com.au/nswesscan)
Michael Keeping
2008-08-16 07:14:47 UTC
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Post by Andrew Kenna
I've often asked people who tell me website is out of date to help supply
updated information, and after I ask them that I never hear from them again
which tells me that people just want everyone else to do the work for them.
I find that it's people like my friend Mark here who are the main
contenders in this ongoing issue, he has the guts to pick at your site
for being outdated and that his is filling the void when his buddy
Peter admitted that Mark's site is not accurate (for the sake of the
issue we are discussing, accuracy and outdated information fall into
the same category). There are enough websites covering NSW without
having another one being advertised to be in aid of those heartbroken
NSW scanner enthusiasts.
Post by Andrew Kenna
I don’t know when you last vested Dave’s site, but there was
definitely no “life outside the forums” as you put it. It was a site
that for the last 2-3 years has always been under construction.
I don't know how frequently you visited his site, but you are
incorrect. Pre- mid 2007 it had many many pages available, it was only
when the new design was released and the forums were restarted that
there was only one page. By saying that it was under construction for
2-3 years is again incorrect So please, double check what your
posting before it's made public, I would hate to humiliate you like
this again.
Post by Andrew Kenna
I cannot find one – let along four – other sites with accurate information
Hang on, this is nothing to do with accuracy of information. My
original post was stating why we don't need anymore of these annoying
silly little websites like yours. If we look at Dave's forum alone, it
covered more than your Emergency Services. Now when you mention not
being able to find four sites, let alone one, you again mis-read what
I was saying, I clearly (go back and read it for yourself) said that
five sites (yours included) have popped up since Dave's site has gone,
this comment had nothing to do with accuracy of information.
Post by Andrew Kenna
We get at least 15 emails from users each week - and many of these we
don't have the available time to reply to
That's sad, I reply to 65 personal emails on average per week without
going into how busy I am during that day. By we, you refer to you -
correct?
Post by Andrew Kenna
National ones never work
There's been two attempts and one ongoing what are you basing your
conclusion on?

Sigh, I don't want to say it but Mark your website won't do very well.
Peter Smyth
2008-08-16 07:39:29 UTC
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"Michael Keeping" <***@keeping.id.au> wrote in message news:a6884c10-1bd5-469c-8d6c-***@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
If we look at Dave's forum alone, it
covered more than your Emergency Services.

only if it was on grn
Andrew Kenna
2008-08-17 05:21:12 UTC
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Peter,

You forgot about the MPT Discussions, the discussions about UniTrunker and
UniVersal Trunker, the detailed postings from cartman on 800mhz systems, and
the other discussions about non grn users.

So Yeah you are right it did only cover the NSWGRN...

Andrew
Post by Michael Keeping
If we look at Dave's forum alone, it
covered more than your Emergency Services.
only if it was on grn
Peter Smyth
2008-08-16 05:41:01 UTC
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Post by Michael Keeping
Peter, you've miss interpreted what I had previously posted..
The site Dave maintained had more than a dozen pages on it,
It had bugger all..... Had some good GRN info...
Post by Michael Keeping
This new fellow has setup a forum with a few emergency services pages on
it,
while that's a good start what about the rest of the scanner scene in
NSW? What about focusing more on the accuracy and importance of
information?
As far as I can tell, the information on this 'new fellow' (which apparently
he is not new) is accuarte and has the important information I want.
Post by Michael Keeping
User contributions and the lack of from you and the rest of scanner
hobbyists make a central point for up-to date and accurate information
hard to find. In the Australia scanner scene, all we require is one
site for each state or a national one.
National ones never work. I have seen people from interstate who have tried
to post NSW stuff, but was always very out-dated or just wrong.

A site with accuate information and a forum that is fair will survive. For
those who think they can set up a site and fall behind in the accuarcy will
fall over by natural death.
NSWESSCAN
2008-08-16 02:59:19 UTC
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Post by Michael Keeping
I doubt it's a forum people want, try quality information. There is a
lack of this information on the internet these days, people get their
jollies by being a forum moderator than actually providing people with
information on scanning. Now that one website (with good information)
has closed people are opening forums in plagues, one is enough!
NSWES scanning is not a new site Michael, it has been online since
2006 and since that time has had by far the most up-to-date and
accurate emergency service scanning information in NSW - so much so
that many other scanning websites use the information.

All this information is available on the new site - and no, you don't
need to use the forum to view it. From your post I doubt you have ever
used the old site or have even looked at the new site, otherwise you
would see that it does include great scanning information.

We get at least 15 emails from users each week - and many of these we
don't have the available time to reply to. One big thing users asked
recently was for a discussion forum after the previous NSW forum
closed. As such a dicussion forum has been added. When the forum went
online there were no other scanning forums in NSW - so to say there is
a plague is a massive overstatement.

Time will tell if the forum part of the site works - but even if it
doesn't we will continue to provide what many would agree is the most
up-to-date scanning website in NSW.

Thanks,
Mark
NSW Emergency Service Scanning
http://www.scanningnsw.net84.net
(Previously: http://members.optusnet.com.au/nswesscan)
Peter Smyth
2008-08-26 22:13:54 UTC
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Post by Michael Keeping
Post by NSWESSCAN
To fill the void left by the closure of a popular New South Wales
scanning forum, we have decided to open a new discussion forum to
facilitate communication between NSW scanning enthusiasts
I doubt it's a forum people want, try quality information. There is a
lack of this information on the internet these days, people get their
jollies by being a forum moderator than actually providing people with
information on scanning. Now that one website (with good information)
has closed people are opening forums in plagues, one is enough!\
Do we have one website yet?
Andrew Kenna
2008-08-27 09:23:31 UTC
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doubt there is Peter

scannsw forums were great though

Andrew
Post by Peter Smyth
Post by Michael Keeping
Post by NSWESSCAN
To fill the void left by the closure of a popular New South Wales
scanning forum, we have decided to open a new discussion forum to
facilitate communication between NSW scanning enthusiasts
I doubt it's a forum people want, try quality information. There is a
lack of this information on the internet these days, people get their
jollies by being a forum moderator than actually providing people with
information on scanning. Now that one website (with good information)
has closed people are opening forums in plagues, one is enough!\
Do we have one website yet?
Peter Smyth
2008-08-27 11:32:00 UTC
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Post by Andrew Kenna
doubt there is Peter
I was waiting for Mr Keeping to start the 'one'.
I mean, he is the one that wants just one site.
Andrew Kenna
2008-08-28 07:38:49 UTC
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If your talking about one for the entire of Australia then its going to be
alot of hard work making sure you have people each state. I think the
logistics of trying to pull off something like that is just not going to
make it worthwhile for anyone to do.

I wish anyone well that wants to have a go at it, but not my cup of tea i'm
afraid.
Post by Peter Smyth
Post by Andrew Kenna
doubt there is Peter
I was waiting for Mr Keeping to start the 'one'.
I mean, he is the one that wants just one site.
Michael Keeping
2008-08-29 20:04:50 UTC
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Post by Peter Smyth
I mean, he is the one that wants just one site.
I never said I wanted anything! What I actually said (go back and
read) is that it would be more ideal if there were either one site for
each state or one for the country. But of course that won't happen...

In other words, if we were in a perfect world.

Digital Mayhem
2008-08-16 09:53:08 UTC
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Howdy all

People can support there own chosen favorite,

NO ONE can be forced to participate in any one forum

So People LOOK AT YOUR OPTIONS!

You have a choice, but look for the helpful hobbyists, Rusty, Cartman,
Scanguru, etc and the others you know and see where they hang out. they are
the best and will choose wisely, BUT NSWESSCAN is a best contender,
He set it up and then said here it is,

I support him
and can only hope the others set there own up and stay there and leave us
all alone!

Cheers
Mike
www.newcastlescan.com

Since 2001, The main Site for the City of Newcastle
Now with live scanner stream, and MORE
You tube clips taken around the City, More to come




"NSWESSCAN" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:daec812a-2a32-4722-b2f1-***@r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
To fill the void left by the closure of a popular New South Wales
scanning forum, we have decided to open a new discussion forum to
facilitate communication between NSW scanning enthusiasts.

The forum is located on the homepage of the New South Wales Emergency
Service Scanning website:

www.scanningnsw.net84.net

Please also note that we have changed our URL. NSW Emergency Service
Scanning and it’s new discussion forum can be found at the above
address.

If you still access our previous ‘optusnet’ site you should be
redirected to our new home – but please update any bookmarks or links.

Thanks,
Mark
NSW Emergency Service Scanning
http://www.scanningnsw.net84.net
(Previously: http://members.optusnet.com.au/nswesscan)
Paul Y
2008-08-16 10:49:55 UTC
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Hi Mike,

I see your internet is working just fine.

Paul
Post by Digital Mayhem
Howdy all
People can support there own chosen favorite,
NO ONE can be forced to participate in any one forum
So People LOOK AT YOUR OPTIONS!
You have a choice, but look for the helpful hobbyists, Rusty, Cartman,
Scanguru, etc and the others you know and see where they hang out. they
are the best and will choose wisely, BUT NSWESSCAN is a best contender,
He set it up and then said here it is,
I support him
and can only hope the others set there own up and stay there and leave
us all alone!
Cheers
Mike
www.newcastlescan.com
Since 2001, The main Site for the City of Newcastle
Now with live scanner stream, and MORE
You tube clips taken around the City, More to come
To fill the void left by the closure of a popular New South Wales
scanning forum, we have decided to open a new discussion forum to
facilitate communication between NSW scanning enthusiasts.
The forum is located on the homepage of the New South Wales Emergency
www.scanningnsw.net84.net
Please also note that we have changed our URL. NSW Emergency Service
Scanning and it’s new discussion forum can be found at the above
address.
If you still access our previous ‘optusnet’ site you should be
redirected to our new home – but please update any bookmarks or links.
Thanks,
Mark
NSW Emergency Service Scanning
http://www.scanningnsw.net84.net
(Previously: http://members.optusnet.com.au/nswesscan)
JimK
2008-08-18 10:47:41 UTC
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www.scanningnsw.net84.net

I sent a request to be activated twice now... no reply....

no problems getting on http://www.studio005.com/scan/


James
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